CUMBRIA TRADERS

A gold trading room run out of the Lake District. Breakdowns before the open, live calls through the session, and traders who answer their own messages.

Trading carries risk to your capital.

CUMBRIA TRADERS

Gold · Intraday · Lake District

Breakdowns, calls,and straight answers.

Everything below: what the room is, who runs it, what the channel has posted, and what members make of it.

Welcome

Cumbria Traders is a community for people trading gold intraday, or trying to. We run it from the Lake District, and we trade the same sessions we talk about.

There's no shortage of people selling trading online, and most of it is noise. What we've built is smaller and plainer than that: a channel where the day gets marked up before the open, calls where you can ask why something was taken, and people you can actually reach when you're stuck on something.

Nobody here will tell you what it'll make you. Trading is a skill, it takes years, and most people who start it stop. What we can do is shorten the part where you're guessing on your own.

Open Community Channel Join the room In this group members can ask the traders questions and talk to one another, as well as receive the results.

What's inside

What actually happens, in order, from the moment you join. Nothing to pay to get started and no clock on any of it.

Day one

Join the Open Community Channel.

One tap, nothing to pay, nothing to fill in. You can sit and read for as long as you like before you speak to anybody.

Open the channel →
Before the open

The day, marked up.

Levels, bias and what we're watching on gold, posted to the channel most mornings before London. The reasoning comes with it, so you can disagree with it.

Midweek

Live calls.

Screens shared, questions taken as they come. Recorded if you can't make it, so missing one costs you nothing.

All day

The channel.

Ask something and one of us will pick it up. Losing days get posted as well as good ones.

If you want it

One to one.

Sessions on your own charts and your own habits, with whoever you came in through. Entirely optional. Plenty of people never do this.

Getting set up

Account and platform.

We'll walk you through opening an account with the broker we work with and getting your platform usable.

Who it's for

Mostly people a year or two in who can't get consistent: they know the setups, they just keep breaking their own rules. Beginners are welcome, but come expecting to learn a skill rather than buy one.

It's not for anyone looking to be told exactly what to click. If you want signals with no explanation and no questions asked, there are plenty of places selling them. This isn't one.

Before you go any further. Trading carries risk to your capital and you can lose money. Nothing shared by any of us is financial advice, and none of it accounts for your circumstances. We're introducing brokers, which means we may be paid by the broker if you open an account through us, worth knowing, and worth asking about.

Cumbria Traders

Scan to join

A QR code opening the Cumbria Traders website

Point your camera at it. No app, nothing to type.

cumbriatraders.com

Trading carries risk to your capital.

Results

Every result posted in the Telegram channel, counted as it goes out. Nothing is typed in by hand. Each total is broken down underneath by the room it came from, because this is several traders rather than one.

What changed this month. We have brought on new traders and new rooms, each running scanners. That is why the figures look different from the months before it and why the number of trades has roughly doubled: it is more desks posting, not one desk posting more. Each room is counted on its own below, so you can see which is which rather than taking one total on trust.

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This week
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This month
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This year
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All time
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Reports

The session summaries as they go out.

What that looks like in money

The same figures at three position sizes, in pounds. A standard lot of gold moves about £7.90 a pip at the rate shown underneath, so the arithmetic is pips multiplied by size.

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0.10 lot-
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On leverage

1:500 changes what you can open, not what you make.

Leverage sets the margin a position ties up. At 1:500 a 1.00 lot of gold needs roughly £700 of margin rather than £348,000, but the profit on 100 pips is £790 either way. Higher leverage lets you take a bigger position on a smaller balance, which cuts both ways: the same move against you is the same size loss.

Read it properly

These are illustrations, not results.

Nobody traded every one of these at a fixed size. The figures assume one position size held across every trade posted, no spread, no commission, no swap, no missed entries and no partial closes. Real accounts do not work like that.

How to read this

Pips

Movement, not money.

A pip is a unit of price movement. What it is worth in pounds depends entirely on your position size, so the same 40 pips means something different to every person reading it.

Win rate

How often, not how much.

A high win rate with small gains and large losses is worse than a low one with the reverse. Read it alongside the pip figure, never on its own.

The honest bit

This is the past.

These are results already posted. They are not a forecast, not a promise, and not an indication of what the next month looks like. Trading carries risk and you can lose money.

Reviews

What members say about the room. Every review is read before it goes up.

Leave one

Honest is more useful than glowing. If something could be better, say so.

Reviews are opinions, not results. What worked for one person is not a forecast for anyone else. Trading carries risk and you can lose money.

Clips

What we've been putting out, newest first. Some of it is on TikTok and Instagram; some of it is only here.

Clips are not results. A good day on camera is still one day. Trading carries risk to your capital and you can lose money, and nothing shared by any of us is financial advice.

Questions

The ones people actually ask before they join, answered straight. If yours isn't here, message any of us on the contact page.

Is it free?

Yes, all of it. Not a free tier with a paid one behind it: there is no subscription, no course, no signal package and no one-to-one fee. The channel, the morning mark-ups, the results, the live calls and the one-to-one sessions all cost you nothing, and none of us takes a cut of what you make. The way it is paid for is the next question.

What's the catch?

The way in is through our broker link. That is the catch, and it is the whole of it: you open your trading account through us, and the broker pays us, not you. Nothing comes out of your profits and there is nothing for you to buy, which is why everything above is free rather than free-for-now.

You are not obliged to use the link. Open an account anywhere you like and you are welcome in the channel either way; it is just that the link is what keeps the lights on, so it is how access to the rest of it works.

Do I need experience?

No, but come expecting to learn a skill rather than buy one. Most of the room is a year or two in and stuck on consistency: they know the setups and keep breaking their own rules. If you have never opened a chart you are still welcome; you will just be starting further back, and we will say so rather than pretend otherwise.

What does “introducing broker” mean for me?

It means we introduce people to a broker we work with, and the broker pays us for it, by the lot, and only on trades that close in profit. If a trade of yours loses, we are paid nothing for it. It costs you no more than going to the broker direct, it does not come out of your profits, we never hold your money and we cannot trade your account: your money sits with the broker and you place your own trades.

Two things worth knowing all the same. We are better off if you open an account, so weigh what we say about that broker with that in mind and ask us about it straight. And being paid by the lot means we are better off if you trade more of them, which is exactly the wrong reason to take a trade, so if you ever think we are pushing volume at you, say so.

Can I lose money?

Yes. Trading carries risk to your capital and you can lose money, including more than you expected to, faster than you expected to. Most people who start trading stop. The results on this site are posted trades counted automatically, losing days included, and they are not a guide to what you would make. Nothing any of us shares is financial advice and none of it accounts for your circumstances.

How much time does this take?

The morning mark-up takes a couple of minutes to read. Gold's session is busiest through the London and New York open, so most people who trade it actively give it two or three hours. The live calls are midweek and recorded, so missing one costs you nothing. You can get something out of the channel on ten minutes a day; you will not learn to trade on ten minutes a day.

What happens after I join?

Nothing you have to respond to. You will see the day marked up before the open and the results as they go out. When you are ready, tell whoever you came in through what you trade and what isn't working. That is the whole qualification process. There is no onboarding sequence and nobody will chase you.

Open Community Channel Join the room In this group members can ask the traders questions and talk to one another, as well as receive the results.

Before you go any further. Trading carries risk to your capital and you can lose money. Nothing shared by any of us is financial advice, and none of it accounts for your circumstances. We're introducing brokers, which means we may be paid by the broker if you open an account through us, worth knowing, and worth asking about.

Signals

Everything posted in the rooms, as it arrives.

Live
Signal alerts

Get a ping the moment a signal posts. One tap.

Read it as it came. Messages are shown exactly as posted, including the running updates. Nothing here is financial advice and trading carries risk to your capital.

Get in touch

Whoever you speak to is who you'll work with. Message any of us. A DM is usually quickest.

Before you use a sign-up link. We're introducing brokers, which means we may be paid by the broker if you open an account through one of these links. Trading carries risk to your capital and you can lose money. Nothing we share is financial advice.

Portal

Sign in for the content plan and outreach list, or for the signal feed, whichever this account is set up for.

Forgotten your password?

Accounts

Everyone signed in through the portal, straight from Netlify.

The team page

Add someone and they appear on the team and contact pages straight away. They can fill in their own photo and details once they sign in.

Tonight's card

Paste or pick the results image and it goes on the Results page. Newest first.

Or tap here and paste

Reviews waiting

Nothing goes on the site until you put it there.

Adding someone

One

Invite them in Netlify.

Netlify dashboard → your site → Identity → Invite users. They get an email and set their own password.

Two

Give them an area of the site.

Same screen, under Roles, add exactly one of: ib (the plan, outreach and quotes, team only) or client (the signal feed only). Without one of these two, they'll be signed in but stuck on a "waiting for access" screen. They will not default into the IB portal.

Three, for a team member

Tell the site who they are.

In user_metadata add person with one of: jake, joel, layton. That links their login to their photo and contact details. Clients don't need this.

Four, if needed

Give them this tab.

Under Roles, also add admin. Leave it off for anyone who shouldn't manage accounts. An admin role always opens the IB portal, whatever else is set.

And for yourself

Add owner.

Trade management (the rooms the site reads, the results board, everything Telegram) only opens for an account with owner or ceo in its Roles. Plain admin is not enough, on purpose: somebody let in to manage people should not be able to change what goes out to the channel. If that tab is not showing for you, this is why.

Removing someone

Delete them in Netlify.

Identity → their name → Delete user. They lose access immediately.

Set registration to invite only. Netlify → Identity → Registration preferences. Otherwise anyone who finds the site can create themselves an account and walk into the portal.

PT
ProTrader

What will you get with Pro Trader

We have partnered with ProTrader. Everything below comes with the account: no subscription, nothing monthly, and nothing to pay me. You fund your own trading account and that is the only money that leaves your hands.

When you are ready

Sign up now

Eleven steps, one at a time, with nothing to work out for yourself. Start by choosing who you are signing up under. It has to be their link, or the free scanners and the XP do not follow you.

What is behind the login

Academy

The course, start to finish: structure, liquidity, risk, and how the desk actually takes a trade.

Beginner+

Trade Ideas

Five desks, each with its own way of reading the chart: Synergy, PulseX, Nova, Zen and Storm.

Unverified+

Live sessions

Screens shared through the session and a weekly onboarding call. Recorded, so missing one costs you nothing.

Unverified+

Announcements

The week ahead, what is on today, and a shout when a session is about to start.

Unverified+

Cypher & Trace scanners

Two scanners reading the market for you and flagging the setups the desks trade. Yours free.

Starter+

Analytics & journal

Every trade off your MT5 account, counted: net P&L, expectancy, profit factor, win rate, average win and loss.

Bronze+

AI coach

Your own journal read back to you: what you keep doing, and what it is costing you.

Silver+

Rewards & XP

A status ladder, milestones, competitions, leaderboards and a shop to spend what you earn.

Unverified+

And what the XP is for

Earned, not bought

Trading the account earns XP. XP is what you spend in the shop, and the shop is real kit, not badges.

Monitors, PCs and MacBooksClaimed with XP as you climb the ladder. Kit for the desk you actually trade on.
Trips to DubaiThe top of the ladder. Earned, not bought.
TradingView PremiumFree with your account. No separate subscription to anybody.
Both scannersCypher and Trace, free. Not an add-on and not a trial.
No monthly feeThere is no subscription to ProTrader and nothing to pay me.
Competitions and leaderboardsRanked on what your account really did, not on what anybody says it did.

What the XP buys

The shop in full, cheapest first. Every one of these is claimed with XP alone — there is nothing to pay on top.

GTA 6 Deluxe Edition$100 value20,000 XP
TradeQuo Merch Box$150 value30,000 XP
PU Prime Merch Box$150 value30,000 XP
Apple Watch$200 value40,000 XP
Marketsync Yearly Sub$350 value70,000 XP
TradingView Premium$800 value160,000 XP
iPhone$1,000 value200,000 XP
Trading Monitor$1,500 value300,000 XP
Dubai Trip$3,000 value600,000 XP
MacBook Pro$4,500 value900,000 XP

Before you go any further. You are responsible for funding your own trading account. Trading carries risk to your capital and you can lose money, so only deposit what you can afford to lose. Nothing here is financial advice. We are introducing brokers, which means we may be paid by the broker if you open an account through us.

Pro Trader management

Who a client can sign up under, and the link that puts them on that person’s book. Yours alone, the same as Trade management.

Who clients can sign up under

The names offered on the Pro Trader page, and the TradeQuo link against each one. The link is the whole point: a client who registers on the wrong one is on nobody’s book, and the free scanners and the XP do not follow them. A row with no link is not offered at all.

The link is the whole point. A client who registers on the wrong one is on nobody’s book, and the free scanners, the TradingView Premium and the XP do not follow them. Anybody not on this list can still make a link of their own at /#refer.

Trade management

Everything behind the signals: what the site reads, what it counts, and what goes into Telegram. Yours alone: an account that can manage people cannot see this page.

Posting to Telegram

Switched off, nothing at all goes out: no cards, no figures, no scoreboards, and nothing already up there is edited. The rooms are still read, every trade is still counted, and the results still show on this website. It is the posting that stops, not the reading.

Nothing is deleted and nothing is unpicked. What is already in the channel stays where it is, and switching posting back on carries on from there rather than sending the quiet days out in a rush. Send a test post still goes through either way, so the bot can be checked without starting everything up again.

The results board

Counted from the signal rooms as the relay sees them, and from anything you forward into your own channel. Clearing cannot be undone.

Walks every message the site has stored and works the trades out again from scratch. For the days those messages still cover, what it works out replaces what is on the board, so a trade counted wrongly at the time is put right. Anything older than the oldest message it holds is left exactly as it is. Go back over today is different: it asks Telegram itself for the last day of messages from each room, for the hours before the site was watching. Both leave the channel alone. Neither posts anything to it. The other two do not: Post today’s results sends out anything from the day the channel has not had yet, and Redo the last 24 hours in the channel takes down the bot’s posts from the last day and sends those trades back as cards. Older posts are left where they are, and neither button touches the results board. Both keep going on their own until there is nothing left. One press, then leave the page open while it works. Both notify everybody.

The numbers at the top of the welcome page

How many are in the channel is asked of Telegram itself, and the review score comes from the reviews. These two nobody but you knows. Leave either blank and it simply will not appear. Better an empty space than a number nobody can stand behind.

The clips themselves live on the Clips page now: films and links both go up from there, and any of the team can add to it.

The pips, straight into Telegram

As soon as the relay knows what a trade made, the bot posts the figure into your own channel. Nobody types it out. One trade gets one message. If the figure moves later, that message is edited rather than a second one added.

Reading the rooms without your machine

Telegram will not let a bot read somebody else’s channel: a bot only ever sees a chat it has been added to, and those rooms are not yours to add it to. So the site signs in as you and reads them the way your own phone does. All of it happens here, on whatever you are holding. Once it is done, nothing needs to be running at home.

Being signed in here is as good as being signed in on a phone. It is kept in the site’s own storage and never shown back to this page or to anybody. If you ever want it gone, press Disconnect Telegram, or open Telegram → Settings → Devices and end the one called Cumbria Traders. Switch your old relay off once the signals are arriving here.

Set up in Netlify → your site → Site configuration → Environment variables. TELEGRAM_BOT_TOKEN is the token BotFather gave you, and TELEGRAM_POST_CHAT_ID is the channel to post into. Leave that one out and it posts to the first channel in TELEGRAM_CHAT_ID. The bot has to be an admin of the channel. The rest are optional: TELEGRAM_POST_MODE=closed holds each post back until the room says the trade is finished (by default a figure goes up as soon as the room states one, and the post is edited as it moves), TELEGRAM_MIN_PIPS holds back anything smaller than that, TELEGRAM_POST_SHOW_ROOM=1 names the room the call came from, and TELEGRAM_POST_SIGNATURE changes the line at the bottom of each post. For the full trade cards above: TELEGRAM_TRADE_CARDS=0 turns them off everywhere, and TELEGRAM_CARD_CHAT_ID sends them somewhere other than the channel the rooms are copied into, and TELEGRAM_SUMMARY_HOUR is the UK hour the day/week/month card goes out at (21 by default).

Your profile

The picture that shows next to your name on the team page. Pick one, then drag and zoom until it sits right in the circle.

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Keep them consistent. Even light, one subject, nothing cluttered behind you. Photos shot the same way make the team page look like a business.

Your details

Experience shows on the team page; the rest shows on the contact page next to your name. Leave anything blank and it simply won't appear. Saved to your account, so it sticks.

Your password

Change it here. Takes effect straight away.

What goes out, and when

Five filming days, one batch session, one day off. If you only ever hit the daily loop, the plan is working.

1short video a day, Mon–Fri
4stories a day, every day
20DMs a day, each
1long piece a week

That's it. 5 videos, 28 stories, and 100 conversations a week per person, 300 across the three of you. Everything below is just how you hit those four numbers without thinking about it.

The daily loop

Roughly 75 minutes of work, split either side of the session so it never competes with your screens.

Pre-market

Story 1: the desk shot.

Charts up, levels marked, one line on where you want gold to trade. Takes 40 seconds and it's the story that gets replied to most.

After the session

Story 2: the result, win or lose.

Post the losers too. The account that only posts green is the account nobody believes.

Midday

The video goes live.

Pulled from Sunday's batch. Same clip to TikTok, Reels and Shorts. Caption written once, pasted three times.

Afternoon

20 DMs, 30 minutes.

Worked in warm-to-cold order, see the outreach tab. Timer on, stop when it goes off.

Evening

Stories 3 and 4: the life bit.

Gym, the fells, food, the car, a book, whatever the day actually held. This is the half people follow you for.

The week

Sunday is the engine. Two hours filming means the other six days are just uploading.

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F
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Short video Stories Live call / batch film
Sunday

Batch film: 2 hours, one outfit change.

Five videos, five hooks, done. Write the five hooks on Saturday night so you're not thinking on camera.

Wednesday

The long piece: live call or a recorded breakdown.

Goes out live to the Telegram, then the recording gets chopped into next week's clips. One shoot, two jobs.

Saturday

Stories only. No video, no DMs.

Protect this or the whole thing falls over in six weeks.

What the videos are about

Roughly two in five aren't about trading at all. That's deliberate: the lifestyle content is what makes a stranger stop, the trading content is what makes them stay.

Teaching40%

One idea per video. Liquidity, structure, risk per trade, why you sat out. Two a week.

Life and the fells25%

Gym, the car, Cumbria itself. Shoot on the fells. Nobody else in this space has that backdrop and it's free.

Straight talk20%

The honest ones. Losing runs, the year it didn't work, what you'd tell yourself at the start.

The channel15%

A member's question answered, clips off a live call, what the channel's been talking about. One a week.

Who runs what

Everyone runs the same daily loop and works their own clients. The only difference is that Jake and Joel own the calls and the channel, because they built it.

All three

The same week.

Own account, own stories, own outreach, own clients. Nobody's list gets handed to anybody. You each bring in people who wouldn't have found Cumbria Traders otherwise.

The daily video

Rotated.

One a week each on the main account, plus whatever you post on your own. Three people means nobody's filming five videos a week.

Jake & Joel

Calls and the channel.

Live calls and running the Telegram day to day. That's the only thing that isn't split three ways.

Sunday, everyone

Thirty minutes.

Three numbers each: conversations had, people into the channel, clients signed. Then whoever's filming that week gets it done.

Before anything goes out. As an IB you're inside UK financial promotion rules, so keep every post free of profit claims, past-return screenshots and anything that reads as a guarantee. Risk warning on any post that mentions trading with money, disclose the broker relationship where you're pointing people at a broker, and no testimonials you didn't actually receive. Teaching, routine and honest talk all sit safely on the right side of it. Get anything with a number in it checked by a compliance consultant first. Same wording for all three of you, DMs included, and check with your broker how everyone signing their own clients sits under the agreement.

20 a day, warmest first

Twenty each, worked warmest first, off your own account. Everyone here has already touched your content. You're not cold-DMing strangers, you're finishing conversations they started. Check the main account's list between you so nobody gets messaged twice.

Commented or saved5

Anyone who typed something under a video or saved it. Reply to the comment first, DM second.

Opener: react to what they actually said. "Fair point on the London open. Do you trade it or just watch it?"

Liked a video5

Work the likes on your last two posts. Skip anyone with a shop or an agency in the bio.

Opener: tie it to the clip. "Saw you liked the one on risk per trade. What are you running at the minute?"

New followers and follow-backs4

Same day they follow, while you're still fresh. One line, no pitch.

Opener: "Appreciate the follow. You trading gold?" Nothing more until they answer.

Story viewers and profile viewers4

Repeat viewers only: the ones who've watched three or four days running. Post a poll or a question sticker and DM whoever answers.

Opener: reply to their answer directly. The sticker did the introduction for you.

Cold, from the tags2

Two a day, no more. People posting their own charts under ICT and SMC tags, genuine feedback on what they posted, nothing about Cumbria Traders.

Opener: comment on their chart like a trader, not a salesman. If they ask what you do, then you tell them.

How the conversation runs

One

Ask, don't tell.

First two messages are questions. What they trade, how long, what's not working.

Two

Give something free.

A straight answer to their problem, no strings. Most people have never had one.

Three

Offer the room, once.

Free Telegram first, always. Mention it once and let it sit, no follow-up pitch.

Four

Let it go if it's quiet.

No second nudge. Chasing costs more followers than it converts.

Today

Tick it off as you go. Resets when you reload the page.

Pre-market story posted
Video live on all three platforms
Result story posted: win or loss
5 DMs: commented or saved
5 DMs: liked a video
4 DMs: new followers
4 DMs: repeat story viewers
2 DMs: cold from the tags
Two evening stories
0 of 9 done

Lines to use

Twenty lines a week, pulled from the full set and reshuffled every Monday. All mindset: none of them claim a result, so they stay clean under promotion rules.

They laugh now. They won't be laughing in five years.

One to avoid. Anything shaped like "I turned £500 into £5,000" or "our members are up X%" is a returns claim, and it's the fastest way to a problem with the regulator. Keep the lines about effort and habit, never about money.

The team

All on the same footing, all trading the same markets. Whoever you come in through is who you'll work with.

Where to find us. Everything runs through the Telegram channel: breakdowns before the open, the calls, and the questions. Trading carries risk to your capital and nothing shared is financial advice.